I'm posting this as a reply to David's post.

David, I intentionally didn't go into a language or framework comparison in my original post. I deliberately kept it very factual. Your comparison simply doesn't hold up. You can't just take a worst-case code snippet, compare it with your best-case snippet and make general statements about the whole technology. If your ratio would apply generally, I would have ended up with 4200 lines of code ... but I didn't, I ended up with 900.

As on my blog post, I will not make this a low-level code pissing contest. You said yourself that Ta-da List took 600 lines of code, they're probably just situated elsewhere. You did write those hundreds of lines of code.

David, I'm by no means saying that our technology is better or that yours sucks (however you seem to have a habit of doing so). We just can't make a decent comparison since you don't have the slightest clue about RIFE, just as I haven't got got the slightest clue about Rails, we both at best just skimmed the surface.

You can now however stop making your useless out-of-context lines of code statements, since they simply don't hold up anymore and make you look silly.